Joshua Wöhle, co-founder and CEO of Mindstone, dives into how AI can be a game-changer in organizations, particularly through the lens of HR. He discusses spotting high-leverage automation opportunities and using AI as a strategic partner to enhance workflows. Wöhle emphasizes that iteration unlocks AI's true value and highlights the shift from traditional SaaS to custom solutions for driving productivity. His insights on transforming non-technical teams into AI-savvy contributors make for a compelling vision of the future workplace and its evolving dynamics.
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HR: The New AI Leadership
HR is becoming a critical strategic function akin to how CTO evolved from IT departments.
Elevating HR to lead AI adoption can create greater organizational leverage than traditional technology roles.
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Weekly Automation Ritual
Create a weekly system for identifying and automating high-leverage tasks.
Reserve dedicated time (e.g., Friday mornings) to build and refine those automations regularly.
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AI Email Feedback Success
Joshua built an AI email feedback system that critiques draft replies with full context of past conversations.
This tool has contributed to winning hundreds of thousands of dollars in business by improving email impact.
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In this episode, Joshua Wöhle, co-founder and CEO of Mindstone, shares how AI can go beyond automation to truly augment thinking, strategy, and workflows. He walks us through the personal rituals and frameworks he uses to spot high-leverage opportunities, and why iteration—not speed—is the real unlock.
We explore how non-technical teams can build custom tools without code, why HR is the real AI driver in most orgs, and how the shift from SaaS to tailored internal solutions is reshaping the future of work. Packed with practical insights for anyone ready to move beyond the buzzwords and into real AI-powered productivity.
Key Takeaways:
AI’s Real Value: Augmentation Over Automation — Joshua explains why the biggest win with AI isn’t cutting tasks—it's using AI to amplify your thinking. If you’re only automating, you’re missing out on AI as a creative and strategic partner.
Crack the Code on the "Utility Threshold" — AI should save you time or improve outcomes. If it doesn’t, you haven’t hit the utility threshold yet. Joshua shares how to spot when AI becomes truly useful—and how small tweaks can unlock massive gains.
Why You Should Build, Not Buy (No Coding Needed) — Forget pricey SaaS tools. Joshua reveals how anyone—yes, even non-tech teams—can quickly build custom AI solutions that fit their workflow, saving time, money, and boosting flexibility.
HR: The Unexpected Hero of AI Adoption — It’s not your CTO driving AI success—it’s HR. Joshua makes the case for why empowering people, not just deploying tech, is key to creating AI-augmented teams that thrive in the future of work.
00:00 Introduction to Joshua Wöhle and Mindstone 01:10 Personal Practices for Automation 02:35 Early Wins in AI Automation 11:23 Levels of AI Proficiency 14:59 Utility Threshold in AI 24:51 AI in Organizational Structures 33:21 Introduction to the Early Space and AI Integration 33:45 Joshua's Entrepreneurial Journey and AI Augmentation 34:37 Challenges and Breakthroughs with AI 35:32 The Evolution of Building with Generative AI 37:56 The Future of SaaS and Internal Development 40:34 Practical Examples of AI Implementation 50:14 The Importance of Iteration and High-Value Tasks 54:56 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
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