The Good Fight

Frances Lee & Stephen Macedo on Why Institutions Failed During COVID

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May 17, 2025
Frances Lee and Stephen Macedo, both esteemed professors at Princeton University, delve into the institutional failures that occurred during the COVID-19 pandemic. They dissect the impact of school closures, contrasting responses from Republicans and Democrats, and how these actions eroded public trust. The conversation highlights the role of misinformation, political polarization, and flawed decision-making, revealing how ideological divides influenced the pandemic's management. Ultimately, they advocate for greater transparency and open dialogue to rebuild trust in public health institutions.
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Shift in Pandemic Strategy Evidence

  • Pre-COVID pandemic plans showed weak evidence for the effectiveness of broad non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs).
  • Lockdowns in Wuhan and Italy created a shift to optimism about these measures despite prior skepticism.
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Rapid Evolution of Social Distancing

  • Social distancing policies quickly escalated from temporary event cancellations to indefinite lockdowns.
  • Early messaging shifted from flattening the curve to prolonged stay-at-home mandates.
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Contact Tracing's Ineffectiveness

  • Contact tracing was widely recommended despite evidence showing it ineffective in rapidly spreading respiratory pandemics.
  • Policies adopted contradicted earlier pandemic plans discouraging contact tracing for viruses like COVID-19.
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