170: The Full NEDA Controversy Explained

NEDA (National Eating Disorders Association) have been in hot water what seems like recently, but actually they have been disappointing people for a while now. If you have seen posts on social media and aren't sure what the whole story is I have you covered today. I am talking about NEDAs anti-fatness, the firing of fat lib senior leader, a disastrous AAP guidelines response, the terrible experience of fat community members, alleged union-busting, the harmful chatbot Tessa, calling community members liars and ignoring them and finally questions around conflict of interest. PHEW! Buckle up, we are in for a ride! Correction: In the episode, I said Chevese Turner was CEO of NEDA but she was actually Chief Strategy & Policy Officer.

Episode show notes: http://www.fiercefatty.com/170

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Essential listening: https://chartable.com/podcasts/fierce-fatty-podcast/reviews/KKT4nvp7

I feel seen: https://chartable.com/podcasts/fierce-fatty-podcast/reviews/odTr5XW1

International Federation of Eating Disorders Dietitians: https://substack.com/redirect/44032796-2f54-4730-b5f8-b151dcbf63ec?j=eyJ1IjoiYzhucXAifQ.5LqS022gY2yt-ZbqqdfAOunB4FrsAoRRqysGuwjUI4M

Eating Disorder Helpline Fires Staff, Transitions to Chatbot After Unionization: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7ezkm/eating-disorder-helpline-fires-staff-transitions-to-chatbot-after-unionization?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

US eating disorder helpline takes down AI chatbot over harmful advice: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/31/eating-disorder-hotline-union-ai-chatbot-harm

Sharon Maxwell's (she her) 1st post about NEDA about lived experience and AAP: https://www.instagram.com/p/CoRK9HXuU3Y/

2nd about AAP: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq80Ql9PeNl/

Chatbot: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs1jp1pPkOs/

NEDA calling her a liar: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs4xUNHPmn4/ Conflicts of interest: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs9CPZzL7nA/

Nia they/them thefriendineverwanted: https://www.instagram.com/p/CogX_uzOvwO/

The New Obesity Guidelines for Kids Are Appalling: https://www.self.com/story/new-childhood-obesity-guidelines#:~:text=Pediatricians%20should%20offer%20weight%2Dloss,on%20the%20CDC%20growth%20charts

Eating Disorders Support ChatBot Promotes Weight Loss from Ragen Chastain: https://open.substack.com/pub/weightandhealthcare/p/nedas-union-busting-eating-disorders?r=c8nqp&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Why I Resigned As A NEDA Ambassador: https://substack.com/redirect/3ef40366-a9ed-4574-8f6b-4278f0156516?j=eyJ1IjoiYzhucXAifQ.5LqS022gY2yt-ZbqqdfAOunB4FrsAoRRqysGuwjUI4M

Serious Issues With the American Academy of Pediatrics Guidelines For Higher-Weight Children and Adolescents: https://weightandhealthcare.substack.com/p/serious-issues-with-the-american?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Center for Body Trust open letter about Cheve: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157680391537874&substory_index=0&id=123566472873&paipv=0&eav=AfajwcAiR75t2gC3HfhG65Jqz4HFpaYwEI_HxfdexgdvT_ApSnPcwYgjJgYSeRZ64MI&_rdr

Clinical Practice Guideline for the Evaluation and Treatment of Children and Adolescents With Obesity: https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/doi/10.1542/peds.2022-060640/190443/Clinical-Practice-Guideline-for-the-Evaluation-and?autologincheck=redirected

Preventing Obesity and Eating Disorders in Adolescents: https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/138/3/e20161649/52684/Preventing-Obesity-and-Eating-Disorders-in

7 Ways to Have a Healthier Body Image in College: https://www.self.com/story/healthy-body-image-college-tips

Important Reminder: Anyone Can Have an Eating Disorder: https://www.self.com/story/important-reminder-anyone-can-have-an-eating-disorder

NEDA 1st statement https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq_OPCZvQPK/

NEDA 2nd https://www.instagram.com/p/CoOBd8jO7J9/

The Shira Rose: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq8zY-lr6PG/

Sharon Maxwell's (she her) 1st post about NEDA about lived experience and AAP: https://www.instagram.com/p/CoRK9HXuU3Y/

Nia they/them thefriendineverwanted: https://www.instagram.com/p/CogX_uzOvwO/

A Union Busting Chatbot? Eating Disorders Nonprofit Puts the 'AI' in Retaliation: https://www.labornotes.org/blogs/2023/05/union-busting-chatbot-eating-disorders-nonprofit-puts-ai-retaliation

Eating Disorder Helpline Fires Staff, Transitions to Chatbot After Unionization: https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7ezkm/eating-disorder-helpline-fires-staff-transitions-to-chatbot-after-unionization?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

https://www.labornotes.org/blogs/2023/05/union-busting-chatbot-eating-disorders-nonprofit-puts-ai-retaliation?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Online Chat: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Online_chat

Chatbot: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Chatbot

Washington University School of Medicine: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Washington_University_School_of_Medicine

Mental health: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Mental_health

Calling community members liars and ignoring them https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs4BiC9AhDe/

NEDA knew about issues with chatbot: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs9RxPor-Gx/

Conflicts of interest: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs9CPZzL7nA/

Serious Issues With the American Academy of Pediatrics Guidelines For Higher-Weight Children and Adolescents: https://weightandhealthcare.substack.com/p/serious-issues-with-the-american?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Special Edition: Dangerous New American Academy of Pediatrics Guidelines for Higher-Weight Children: https://weightandhealthcare.substack.com/p/special-edition-dangerous-new-american?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

NATIONAL EATING DISORDERS ASSOCIATION: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/133444882

Tell NEDA to STOP working with the STOP Alliance: https://www.change.org/p/tell-neda-to-stop-working-with-the-stop-alliance?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email