#194 - Personal growth as a CEO in different stages of a growing startup | Sam Corcos & Ben Grynol
Dec 12, 2022
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Sam Corcos, CEO of Levels, discusses personal growth and challenges in different startup stages with Ben Grynol. Topics include time management, strategy vs. people ops, startup requirements, and quarterly think weeks. They also explore conflict avoidance, tough decisions, and key takeaways for founders and CEOs, such as humility, trust, and good decision-making.
Different stages of a growing startup require different skill sets and responsibilities for a CEO.
Effective decision-making as a CEO requires reflection, seeking advice, and creating the necessary conditions.
Deep dives
Transitioning from Individual Contributor to CEO
In this podcast episode, Sam Corcos, co-founder and CEO of Levels, shares his journey from being an individual contributor to becoming a CEO. He discusses the challenges of transitioning from writing code and shipping products to leading a team and making strategic decisions. Sam emphasizes the importance of having context, making decisions, and connecting the dots cross-functionally in his current role as a CEO. He also acknowledges the need for leaders to recognize their responsibilities and overcome personal hurdles like conflict avoidance and decision-making to effectively lead and drive their organizations forward.
Navigating the Changing Role of a CEO
As the company grows, Sam highlights how the role of a CEO changes. He talks about how different stages of growth require different skill sets and responsibilities. From being an individual contributor to managing organizational design and hiring, Sam reflects on the evolving nature of his role throughout the company's history. He shares insights on how his involvement in projects has shifted and how a CEO's primary leverage changes from execution to influence. Sam also discusses the challenge of balancing involvement and autonomy as the company grows and the importance of trusting and empowering the team.
The Personal Challenges of Leadership
Sam acknowledges personal challenges he has faced as a leader. He explores topics like conflict avoidance, managing difficult conversations, and decision-making under uncertain circumstances. Sam shares his experiences in avoiding conflicts and delaying necessary actions, recognizing the need for improvement in these aspects. He also discusses the importance of self-awareness, setting boundaries, and finding satisfaction in solving big problems as a leader. Sam emphasizes the value of reflection, learning from others, and taking the time to think strategically in order to make sound decisions and navigate the challenges of leadership effectively.
Making Good Decisions as a CEO
The ultimate responsibility of a CEO, according to Sam, is making good decisions. He emphasizes the need for CEOs to create the necessary conditions to facilitate effective decision-making. Sam highlights the importance of humility, trust, communication, and seeking advice from others who have faced similar challenges. Reflecting on strategies, developing context, and having the space to think are key elements in making well-informed decisions as a CEO. Sam encourages CEOs to prioritize what they need personally to make good decisions and drive their organizations towards success.
Over the lifespan of Levels, the company and the CEO role evolved drastically. Sam Corcos went from coding the initial product to CEO, and he experienced a lot of personal challenges and growth along the way. Listen as Sam chats with Ben Grynol about time management, strategy versus people ops, requirements at each startup stage, and taking time to reflect through quarterly Think Weeks.
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