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Industrial Policy: How the Green New Deal's Architects Would Do IP

May 14, 2021

Saikat Chakrabarti, former Chief of Staff for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Zack Exley, progressive operative from the Bernie Sanders campaign, dive deep into the creation of the Green New Deal. They discuss how bold leadership can reshape economic policy and critique the Democratic Party’s hesitance towards industrial strategies. The duo also reflects on America's unique industrial potential, contrasts U.S. and Chinese investment approaches, and emphasizes the importance of skill development for young activists. It's a fascinating exploration of progressive innovation amidst political challenges.

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Saikat Chakrabarti

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Episode notes

Intro

2min

Shifts in Democratic Economic Thought

9min

The Green New Deal: Innovating in a Polarized Landscape

27min

Balancing Trade-offs: The Future of U.S. Economic Policy

17min

Harnessing America's Industrial Potential

11min

Balancing Skill Development and Activism

15min

Nostalgia and Indulgence: A Journey Through Song and Memory

3min

Exploring Industrial Policy through the Lens of the Green New Deal

2min

For Part Three of ChinaTalk's industrial policy series, we are joined by two leading lights of the American left: Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC's former Chief of Staff, and Zack Exley of the 2016 Bernie campaign. (Don't forget to check out Part One with Rob Atkinson and Part Two with José Fernandez.) Co-hosting is Vishnu Kannan, a junior fellow in Carnegie's Technology and International Affairs Program. Saikat and Zack take us inside the creation of the Green New Deal, lay out how bold leadership can change a nation's economic trajectory, lament Democrats' lukewarm appetite for industrial policy, and offer up their vision for an American developmental program that harnesses the full potential of its people and capital. We discuss everything from how Harvard teaches economics wrong to what CIA Director Bill Burn's declassified Iraq War cables have to do with the classic film Casablanca.

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