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614. Is the U.S. Sleeping on Threats from Russia and China?

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Dec 5, 2024
John J. Sullivan, a former U.S. Deputy Secretary of State and Ambassador to Russia, shares his expertise on U.S.-Russia relations and the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. He recounts a crucial meeting between Biden and Putin, predicting how a second Trump term might reshape foreign policy. Sullivan discusses missteps in U.S. diplomatic strategies and the pressing threats posed by Russia and China. He also delves into the complexities of Russian identity and geopolitics, highlighting the need for a solid response to ensure global stability.
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ANECDOTE

Geneva Summit Atmosphere

  • Biden and Putin met in Geneva in 2021, a meeting John Sullivan attended.
  • Putin appeared relaxed, making jokes, even at the U.S.’s expense.
INSIGHT

Putin's Ukraine Intentions

  • Despite the summit, Putin had likely already decided to invade Ukraine.
  • The meeting focused more on Afghanistan than Ukraine, a telling sign.
ANECDOTE

Harassment in Moscow

  • While serving as U.S. ambassador, Sullivan faced constant harassment from the Russian government.
  • This included attempts to annoy, provoke, and compromise him.
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