The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia Bryan Johnson: “The Biggest Lie In Hustle Culture” - How Phones Are Quietly Aging You!
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Oct 23, 2025 
In this conversation, Bryan Johnson, an entrepreneur and longevity researcher, shares his quest to become the healthiest person alive after selling Venmo. He dives into biohacking, revealing the staggering $2M he spends annually on health optimization, from blood plasma treatments to rigorous sleep protocols. Bryan challenges hustle culture’s lies, advocates for the power of sleep, and discusses the impact of food toxins on our well-being. His insights encourage a shift in priorities for entrepreneurs towards health and longevity.
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Rethinking Success If We Can 'Don't Die'
- Bryan argues we may be the first generation capable of not dying and must rethink cultural priorities.
- This possibility reframes success away from short-term grind toward sustaining life and cognition.
From Braintree To Longevity Ventures
- Bryan recounts building Braintree and Venmo and selling it for $800M before shifting to science and longevity.
- He then founded Kernel, Blueprint and the Don't Die project to pursue long-term impact.
Build A Daily Laddered Health Routine
- Bryan describes a six-hour daily health routine including exercise, sauna, red light, altitude and hyperbaric therapy.
- He frames it as an athlete-like regimen for longevity rather than vanity.