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In this episode Steven is joined by Derek Mazzarella, CFP and the two share ideas on how to best articulate complex tax planning in a way that resonates with clients. Derek shares how he is already incorporating tax law changes that won't happen until 2026 into his planning with clients and why he is such a big fan of having analogies for everything he does (bonus: he shares several of his favorites). Steven and Derek also touch on the tax implications around equity compensation and the inevitability that spending and income will not be linear in retirement.