Intelligence Squared

How Extremists are Taking Over

Sep 12, 2023
Julia Ebner, a researcher on far-right extremism and the author of "Going Mainstream," discusses how extremist ideologies have surged during crises, including the pandemic. She explores the concerning rise of groups like QAnon and neo-fascists moving into mainstream politics. The conversation highlights the emotional complexities of individuals drawn to these movements and the tactics extremists use to infiltrate society. Ebner emphasizes the need to confront these ideologies as they gain traction and influence, targeting vulnerable individuals online.
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ANECDOTE

Going Dark Research

  • Julia Ebner's first book, Going Dark, explored fringe extremist groups pre-COVID.
  • Her research involved going undercover in online and offline spaces, including neo-Nazi groups and ISIS hacking groups.
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Undercover Research Methods

  • Ebner uses avatars and fake identities to infiltrate extremist groups online and offline.
  • This allows her to gain insights into their strategies, tactics, and motivations.
INSIGHT

Balancing Empathy and Ideology

  • Ebner emphasizes empathy for individuals' grievances while condemning their ideologies.
  • She notes the challenge of balancing understanding with the disturbing nature of extremist beliefs.
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