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Agile Product Operating Model (APOM) and SAFe - Do They Relate?

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Apr 3, 2025
Yuval Yeret, a Professional Scrum Trainer and SAFe Fellow, dives into the synergies between the Agile Product Operating Model (APOM) and the Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe). He emphasizes transitioning from a 'feature factory' mindset to a dynamic, experimental 'lab' environment. The discussion covers practical steps for evolving SAFe to better support product-focused organizations and highlights the importance of creativity, trust, and effective governance in agile transformations. Tune in for insights on fostering innovation within agile practices!
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INSIGHT

Factories vs. Labs

  • Most organizations desire the efficiency of a factory for their tech capabilities.
  • However, product development often resembles a lab, with hypotheses and experiments driving value discovery.
ANECDOTE

The Juice Factory Analogy

  • Yuval Yeret uses a metaphor of a juice factory to explain outcome-oriented product development.
  • He distinguishes between optimizing the production line (factory) and experimenting with new recipes (lab).
ADVICE

Becoming More Product-Centric

  • Evaluate your current work for outcome-centricity.
  • Examine the principles driving your implemented changes (e.g., Scrum) and identify disconnects at different levels.
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