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Es Devlin and Ekow Eshun on Belonging, Otherness and Identity

Feb 14, 2025
In a candid conversation, Es Devlin and Ekow Eshun explore the transformative power of human connection. Devlin's project invites reflection on personal biases through the stories of Londoners from immigrant backgrounds. Eshun's book delves into racial identity by uncovering the narratives of five Black men across time. They discuss how 'otherness' shapes belonging and emphasize that understanding each other requires vulnerability. Both artists highlight the journey of self-discovery as a means to bridge cultural divides and foster empathy.
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Quick takeaways

  • Es Devlin emphasizes the importance of confronting personal biases to foster genuine connections and understanding within diverse communities.
  • Ekow Eshun's exploration of racial identity in 'The Strangers' highlights the necessity of recognizing shared humanity beyond historical stereotypes.

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Exploring Identity and Otherness

The discussion highlights the importance of understanding one's own identity in relation to others, particularly through the lens of otherness. The project 'Congregation' involved inviting 50 Londoners from immigrant backgrounds to be depicted in a local church, aiming to bridge gaps of separation and bias. The host and guests emphasize the necessity of confronting personal prejudices to create genuine connections with others. This exploration reveals that true understanding of community and belonging requires active self-reflection and a willingness to embrace diversity.

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