The Lawfare Podcast

Scaling Laws: AI Safety Meet Trust & Safety with Ravi Iyer and David Sullivan

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Oct 10, 2025
David Sullivan, Founding Executive Director of the Digital Trust & Safety Partnership, and Ravi Iyer, Managing Director at USC’s Psychology of Technology Institute, delve into the evolving landscape of Trust and Safety in the digital realm. They discuss the need for user-centered regulations, the role of AI in moderation, and the importance of design over top-down policies. The duo explores how AI companions differ from social media in purpose and agency, and what best practices can be applied to ensure safer digital experiences, particularly for vulnerable users like teens.
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INSIGHT

Trust And Safety Is A Matureing Field

  • Trust and safety handles unwanted content and behavior across digital services dating back to early internet forums.
  • The field has matured from ad-hoc moderation to institutionalized processes and standards.
INSIGHT

From Rules To Safer System Design

  • Early trust and safety focused on defining forbidden speech, but defining everything proved illegitimate and impossible.
  • The field shifted toward system design that reduces harm and lets users mitigate their own risks.
ADVICE

Design Upstream To Prevent Harm

  • Use design interventions like privacy-by-default, rate limits, and youth protections to prevent harms upstream.
  • Change recommendation and visibility systems to stop risky interactions before they start.
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