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His Video AI app hit $10M+ ARR in Months—with 0 outbound sales. | Michael Lingelbach, Founder of Hedra

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Aug 18, 2025
Michael Lingelbach, the founder of Hedra and a former Stanford PhD student, shares insights on skyrocketing his generative video app to over $10M ARR in just months. He discusses the pitfalls of relying on free users as a false signal and the importance of a prosumer-to-enterprise strategy. Michael reveals how he slowed growth to develop a more impactful V2, emphasizing workflow over flashy features. He also shares his creator-led launch tactics that drove organic virality and crucial early hiring lessons for startups navigating the AI landscape.
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INSIGHT

Omnimodal Models Demand New UX

  • Hedra builds natively omnimodal models to operate over image, text, and audio together.
  • Michael argues UX/UI must be rethought as model capabilities grow to enable real workflows.
ADVICE

Build Models Only For Real Differentiation

  • Only build proprietary models when you truly need differentiated capabilities for your use case.
  • Otherwise prefer integrating leading models so users can stay in one workflow.
ANECDOTE

Dropping Out To Chase The Moment

  • Michael dropped out of his PhD at Stanford to seize a post-ChatGPT opportunity and start Hedra.
  • He planned to return to finish his defense but raised funding and stayed fully committed.
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