Natalie Y. Gutiérrez, LMFT, author of The Pain We Carry, joins us to discuss healing intergenerational trauma. She is founder of Mindful Journeys Marriage & Family Therapy PLLC, and a licensed marriage and family therapist working primarily with BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, People of Color) survivors of complex trauma—ranging from racial trauma, sexual trauma, attachment trauma, and intergenerational trauma.  Gutiérrez is a certified internal family systems therapist and prospective trainer at the IFS Institute.

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