Dare to Lead with Brené Brown Brené with Mike Erwin on Leadership Is a Relationship, Part 2 of 2
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Dec 12, 2022 
Brené interviews Mike Erwin, CEO of the Character and Leadership Center, on prioritizing relationships in effective leadership. They discuss the importance of feedback, loyalty, trust, vulnerability, and intentional communication. Embracing humility and connection, navigating uncertainty, and fostering personal growth through relationships are key themes.
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Vulnerability in Leadership
- Brené Brown and Mike Erwin discuss the importance of vulnerability in leadership.
- Leaders should use language that equalizes them with their team and strip away unnecessary formalities.
Bob McDonald on Trust
- Bob McDonald, former CEO of Procter & Gamble, prioritized trust by encouraging informality.
- He asked to be called "Bob" instead of "Secretary" to foster closer relationships with employees.
Language and Trust
- Seemingly small changes in word choice significantly impact trust-building.
- Focus on what you want to see rather than what you want to stop.