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Imaginary Worlds

Fantasy and Fascism

Oct 1, 2020
Join history teacher Stefan Sasse, who specializes in fascism, and journalist Damien G. Walter as they delve into the unsettling connections between fantasy worlds and authoritarianism. They discuss how 'Star Wars' reflects ideological threats and the moral complexities of the Jedi. Exploring 'Game of Thrones,' they analyze Daenerys’ fall from heroism to tyranny. The conversation also critiques superhero narratives and their ties to fascist themes, underscoring the urgent need for critical engagement with power and storytelling in both fantasy and reality.
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Quick takeaways

  • The evolution of the Jedi in Star Wars demonstrates how idealistic organizations can gradually succumb to authoritarian influences when they ignore critical societal changes.
  • Daenerys Targaryen's journey in Game of Thrones serves as a stark reminder of how the pursuit of power can corrupt even initially noble leaders, blurring moral boundaries.

Deep dives

The Subtle Rise of Fascism in Star Wars

The depiction of the Jedi in the Star Wars universe illustrates how fascism can subtly infiltrate even the most principled organizations. Their desire for purity led them to ignore warning signs, allowing societal structures to become more authoritarian without recognizing the shift. For instance, the Jedi took on the role of military leaders, which compromised their original ideals and influenced their decision-making. This transformation highlights the danger of ignoring gradual changes in governance that can facilitate the rise of totalitarian regimes.

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