Ludwig Stigler, The Economist's U.S. technology editor, and Su Lin Wong, its China correspondent, dive into Apple's growth under Tim Cook. They discuss the hurdles ahead for maintaining Apple's dominance amid increasing competition and regulatory challenges. Wong sheds light on the escalating crackdown on labor unions in Hong Kong, illustrating the dire state of democracy and activism there. The conversation also touches on how California's new laws are impacting the pork industry, reflecting broader tensions in consumer advocacy and compliance.