
History Extra podcast What causes cultures to decline and fall?
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Nov 26, 2025 In this insightful discussion, guests Luke Kemp, a researcher from Cambridge focusing on societal collapses, Islam Issa, a British-Egyptian historian specializing in Alexandria, and Caroline Dodds-Pennock, an expert on Indigenous American histories, delve into the complexities behind cultural decline. They explain how collapse involves not just immediate factors, but deep-rooted societal vulnerabilities. The conversation explores historical case studies like Ptolemaic Egypt and the Aztecs, emphasizing resilience through cultural continuity and the unexpected outcomes that can emerge from disaster.
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Collapse Is About Power Structures
- Collapse means breakdowns in power structures, not total annihilation of people or culture.
- Societal collapse happens when state, economy, and population failures overlap but varies by case.
History Informs Modern Risks
- Studying past collapses helps us understand modern risks like climate change, inequality and warfare.
- Different societies faced similar challenges and responded with varied successes and failures.
Cleopatra's Story Told By Roman Sources
- Islam Issa recounts how Roman sources shaped Cleopatra's image because Octavian controlled many records.
- He explains that Ptolemaic rulers borrowed from Rome and opened Egypt to Roman interference over centuries.








