Exploring the concept of intangible value in companies and the launch of Sparkline Intangible Value ETF. Analyzing the challenges of traditional value investing and the performance of intangible value. Discussing the debate between active and passive investing and the correlation between quality and intangible value factors. Lighthearted conversation about ticker symbols and rebranding companies.
Intangible assets like intellectual property, brand equity, human capital, and network effects are increasingly important in evaluating stocks and traditional value investing fails to capture their value.
Intangible Value ETF (ITAN) incorporates accounting-based metrics and alternative data sources to capture the value of intangible assets and offers a new approach to incorporate these factors into investment strategies.
Deep dives
Intangible value as a new factor in ETFs
The podcast episode discusses the concept of intangible value and how it is an important factor in evaluating stocks. Intangible assets like intellectual property, brand equity, human capital, and network effects are becoming increasingly important for companies today. Traditional value investing, which primarily focused on tangible assets, fails to capture the value of these intangible assets. The podcast introduces the Intangible Value ETF (ITAN) that seeks to capture the value of intangible assets using a combination of accounting-based metrics and alternative data sources. The ETF selects stocks based on their intangible value and weights them using a modified market cap weighting. The episode also discusses the correlation between intangible value and other factors like quality and the potential for this factor to explain the outperformance of certain stocks and sectors.
The evolution of value investing
The podcast explores how the concept of value investing has evolved over time. It traces the origins of value investing to the 1930s when tangible assets like factories and cash were key determinants of value. However, in today's economy, intangible assets like brands, intellectual property, and network effects are crucial for determining a company's value. The discussion highlights the limitations of traditional accounting-based metrics in capturing the value of intangible assets and the need for new approaches, such as the Intangible Value ETF, to incorporate these factors into investment strategies.
The importance of intangible assets
The episode emphasizes the growing importance of intangible assets for companies today. It discusses how companies like Apple, Facebook, and Google rely on their brands, intellectual property, and network effects to generate significant profits. These intangible assets often contribute more to a company's value than its tangible assets. The podcast highlights the need for investors to consider the value of intangible assets when evaluating stocks and exploring investment opportunities in sectors like technology, consumer brands, and life sciences where these assets have a significant impact on a company's success.
Using alternative data and natural language processing
The podcast explores the role of alternative data and natural language processing in capturing the value of intangible assets. Traditional accounting statements often lack sufficient information about intangible assets, requiring the use of unstructured data sources like patents, trademarks, job postings, and social media mentions. The episode highlights the advancements in natural language processing and AI, which allow firms like Sparkline Capital to extract insights from unstructured data and incorporate them into their investment models. These advancements enable a more holistic approach to evaluating the value of intangible assets and provide a more accurate representation of a company's potential.
When it comes to evaluating companies for different exchange-traded fund strategies, some things can be easily measured—such as dividends and price-to-earnings ratios. Others are harder to gauge. This so-called dark matter of the stock market universe includes thinks like a company's brand power, human capital and intellectual property.
The latter is something called “intangible value.” And now there’s an ETF for that, too.
On this episode, Joel and Eric speak with Kai Wu, founder and chief investment officer of Sparkline Capital, the issuer behind the Sparkline Intangible Value ETF (or ITAN), as well as Chis Cain, a quant analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence. Topics discussed include defining intangible value, how it explains the relentless returns of the Super 7 stocks and how much of it is being captures by popular ETFs.