Max Meyer joins Bridget to talk about the new tech magazine he just launched Arena. They discuss Arena's mission to be on the side of the future and the people building it, his desire to offer a tech magazine that's an alternative to the other big name tech magazines out there that seem focused on demoralizing people about the future and making them fear things, instead offering a pro-American, pro-technology perspective while acknowledging valid concerns about technology and its risks. They cover automation's future impact and why Max believes it transforms rather than eliminates jobs, comparing phones to weapons, using AI tools, the focus of education in India and China vs the US, the success of the American spirit, Trump's connection with working-class voters, Biden administration policies that have crushed entrepreneurship, why driving round America is an important thing to do, his advice for people who've experienced profound loss, and how finding strength teaches you how to do it again.

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