In this replay episode from the podcast Space Construction, organizational architect and workspace strategist Alon Schwartz interviews Dart Lindsley to discuss the management philosophy behind Work for Humans. Join them as they discuss why employees are customers, the origin of Work for Humans, AI’s role in work design, and other topics.

Alon Schwartz is an organizational and strategic consultant in high-tech, commercial businesses, the public sector, and associations, among other sectors. As a professional workplace strategist with over a decade of experience, he uses advanced tools to analyze, diagnose, and innovate workspaces to improve productivity and collaboration.

In this episode, Dart and Alon discuss:
- The role of a business architect
- The data that showed Dart employees as customers
- Exchanging value versus money
- The origin of Work for Humans
- A 1-sided manager versus a 2-sided manager
- How to discover the work your employees want
- Scaling the right kind of work
- AI’s role in work design
- And other topics…

Alon Schwartz is an organizational and strategic consultant in high-tech, commercial businesses, the public sector, and associations, among other sectors. As a professional workplace strategist with over a decade of experience, he uses advanced tools to analyze, diagnose, and innovate workspaces to improve productivity and collaboration. Alon holds a Master’s degree in sociology from the University of Haifa and currently resides in Israel.

Resources mentioned:
Original interview episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/638CS3epejTGa35fooFznR?si=FZ8mAiYGRF27g63rXF5HdQ&nd=1
The Experience Economy, by Joe Pine II: https://www.amazon.com/Experience-Economy-Updated-Joseph-Pine/dp/1422161978

Connect with Alon:
Alon’s show Space Construction: https://open.spotify.com/show/6WyNVJRQ19vx1Cn9SMtQML
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alon-schwartz-vphr/ 

Work with Dart:
Dart is the CEO and co-founder of the work design firm 11fold. Build work that makes employees feel alive, connected to their work, and focused on what’s most important to the business. Book a call at 11fold.com.