Kelly welcomes Jo Boaler back to the podcast. Jo is the Nomellini & Olivier Professor of Education at Stanford University. She is the author of nineteen books and numerous research articles. Her latest book is called “Math-Ish: Finding Creativity, Diversity, and Meaning in Mathematics.” 

“Mathematics can be a secret weapon.” 

“People with a growth mindset view mistakes as opportunities to learn.” 

“If you are walking on the edge of change, you will probably get arrows fired at you.”