Freakonomics Radio

Two (Totally Opposite) Ways to Save the Planet (Rebroadcast)

Jul 29, 2021
This discussion features Charles C. Mann, a journalist and author exploring contrasting environmental approaches, alongside Mary Robinson, former President of Ireland advocating for climate justice, and Nathan Myhrvold, technologist pushing for innovation. They delve into the heated debate over conservation versus technological solutions for climate change. Their conversation highlights the importance of diverse strategies, the impact of agricultural innovations, and ethical considerations in ensuring sustainability, emphasizing the urgent need for collaboration to address climate challenges.
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ANECDOTE

The Unfulfilled Prophecy

  • Charles Mann reread The Population Bomb in college, a book predicting widespread famine.
  • He later realized these predictions didn't materialize, sparking his interest in environmentalism.
INSIGHT

Vogt's Environmentalism

  • William Vogt, the "prophet", shaped modern environmentalism by emphasizing limits and carrying capacity.
  • His book Road to Survival, though influential, contained problematic views on population control.
ANECDOTE

Guano Island Revelation

  • William Vogt's experience with declining bird populations on Peruvian Guano Islands led to his "carrying capacity" insight.
  • He connected this natural limit to a global scale, predicting environmental peril.
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