The podcast explores tensions and conflicting views towards China in the COVID-19 pandemic, including its lack of transparency. It discusses China's impact on the global economy and politics, the business side of China's manufacturing supply chain, the challenges of transitioning China's economy, and China's changing perception in the financial industry.
The podcast explores the risks and opportunities of resetting the relationship between China and the West following tensions over the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, Hong Kong protests, and concerns about President Xi's accumulation of power.
The guests discuss the economic impact of China's rise as a global manufacturing hub and the potential for a decoupling of the world economy.
Deep dives
The Risks and Opportunities of the China-West Relationship Reset
The podcast explores the risks and opportunities of resetting the relationship between China and the West following tensions over the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, Hong Kong protests, and concerns about President Xi's accumulation of power. The discussion highlights the clash between Western free liberal democracies and China's hybrid economy, which combines market forces with top-down control. The guests discuss the economic impact of China's rise as a global manufacturing hub and the potential for a decoupling of the world economy. They also explore the challenges China faces in pivoting its economy towards domestic consumption and the need for the UK to navigate the tensions between economic interests and national security concerns.
The Shift in Global Supply Chains and Manufacturing
The episode features an interview with Liam Casey, founder and CEO of PCH International, a logistics and supply chain company based in Shenzhen. Casey discusses the transformation of Shenzhen into a global manufacturing powerhouse and the advantages of manufacturing in China, such as their expertise, scale, and ability to adapt to changing demands. He also explains the challenges companies face when considering relocating manufacturing from China and highlights China's role in providing critical supplies, like PPE, during the COVID-19 pandemic.
The Great Decoupling and Future Choices for the UK
The podcast examines the concept of the 'great decoupling' between China and the West, where a split and re-routing of global supply chains is occurring. The guests discuss the fundamental shift in global relations towards a bipolar or multipolar world order, driven by economic and national security considerations. They suggest that the UK needs to carefully navigate its relationship with China, balancing economic opportunities with national security concerns, particularly in areas related to technology and the control of critical infrastructure.
Will Western economies and companies decouple from China? For decades, the world has relied on this rapidly emerging economy as its factory, producing everything from toilet rolls to iPhones. But post Covid-19, US trade wars and tensions with Hong Kong, is that all about to change? Evan Davis and guests discuss
GUESTS
Liam Casey, CEO and founder, PCH International
Diana Choyleva, chief economist, Enodo Economics
Dr. Yu Jie, senior research fellow, China, Chatham House
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