The Lawfare Podcast

Rational Security: “The General Mattis of the NFL” Edition

Feb 12, 2025
Joel Braunold, Managing Director of the S. Daniel Abraham Center for Middle East Peace and expert on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, joins the discussion on pressing national security issues. They dissect Trump's controversial proposal for U.S. 'ownership' of Gaza and its potential ramifications. The conversation shifts to Trump's foreign policy approach in Ukraine, reflecting on the complexities of U.S. support for both Israel and Ukraine amid evolving geopolitical tensions. The mix of humor and serious analysis provides a captivating look at today's global landscape.
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INSIGHT

Trump's Gaza Plan: A Double-Edged Sword

  • Trump's Gaza plan can be interpreted as a negotiation tactic or a serious proposal.
  • It aims to pressure Hamas and offers Israel a solution, but its feasibility and regional implications are uncertain.
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Population Transfer: A Recurring Theme

  • The idea of transferring populations has existed since the Israeli-Palestinian conflict's beginning.
  • Trump's proposal makes it acceptable, changing Israeli political discourse and creating policy challenges.
ANECDOTE

Ben-Gurion: A Transferist?

  • Israeli historian Benny Morris characterizes David Ben-Gurion as a transferist.
  • This highlights the long-standing presence of transfer ideas within the conflict's history.
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