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Recode Decode: Jon Meacham

May 15, 2020
Jon Meacham, Pulitzer Prize-winning author and historian, shares his insights on resilience during crises in American history. He discusses his new podcast, highlighting the parallels between past events like the Great Depression and the 1918 flu pandemic with today's challenges. Meacham cautions against viewing history as simpler times, reflecting on the politicization of current issues and its implications for democracy. He also ponders Joe Biden’s potential impact and reveals what he's writing next, offering a thought-provoking perspective on the future of American leadership.
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ANECDOTE

1918 Flu Pandemic

  • The 1918 flu pandemic, likely originating in the US, spread globally due to World War I.
  • Social distancing measures, like closing theaters and banning smoking on trains, were implemented then too.
INSIGHT

Hope Through Struggle

  • American history, though marked by progress, is not a "fairy tale" of pure hope.
  • Many groups faced hardship and oppression, requiring constant struggle for improvement.
INSIGHT

Progress Despite Imperfection

  • Despite its flaws, America has made progress in applying the ideal of equality.
  • More people are invested in the American experiment as the best path forward.
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