Episode 14 - A CMO Confidential interview with Clive Sirkin, the host of the podcast Unstuck who previously served as the Chief Growth Officer of Kellogg, the CMO of Kimberly-Clark, and the Group Managing Director of Leo Burnett. We discuss the difference between creativity and crafting, reducing the fear of getting out on the "creative ice," how to be a marketer versus an artist, avoiding the "marketing contagion of the moment" and how to make consumer believers versus taking hostages. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.