
The Jordan Syatt Podcast Jefferson Fisher: How to Catch a Liar and Deal with Narcissists, Gaslighters, Bullies, and More…
Nov 19, 2025
Join Jefferson Fisher, a board-certified trial attorney and bestselling author, as he shares insights on navigating tough conversations. He reveals how to spot a liar and tackle narcissists and bullies effectively. Fisher discusses the art of cross-examination, emphasizing the importance of handling difficult talks with curiosity and purpose. He also highlights constructive ways to express anger and deal with gaslighting. Learn to transform challenging interactions into opportunities for deeper connection and understanding.
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Begin With The End In Mind
- Prepare your message starting from the jury instructions (the end goal) and work backward to guide every piece of evidence.
- Focused preparation prevents wasting time on sensational facts that don't answer the jury's questions.
Social Media Changed Jury Strategy
- Jefferson learned social media fame affected jury selection when many potential jurors recognized him.
- The defense settled quickly because his public presence threatened impartiality in that venue.
Expose Lies By Slowing The Moment
- When you catch a lie, slow it down and re-ask the question like you don't believe it to make the witness uncomfortable.
- Use documents or evidence and then stop, thank them for the truth, and let the jury see the contradiction.

