The OMFIF Podcast Investing in outcomes: delivering more with less
Nov 12, 2025
Join Andrew Kleine, a managing director at EY with expertise in outcome-based budgeting, and Adam Chepenik, a government and public sector principal at EY, as they navigate the challenges governments face in delivering public services with limited resources. They discuss the shift to outcome-based budgeting, making fiscal decisions relatable for citizens, and essential strategies for managing fiscal crises. Andrew and Adam emphasize innovative solutions like AI and long-term planning to enhance financial resilience. Tune in for a deep dive into more sustainable public financial management!
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Innovation Can Improve Outcomes And Cut Costs
- Governments can achieve both better outcomes and cost savings by innovating operations and using technology.
- Shared services, monetizing real estate, and operating-model redesigns create value while reducing costs.
Budget From Outcomes Not Last Year
- Start budgets from goals and priorities instead of last year’s line items.
- Repurpose funds toward programs that show strong results per dollar spent.
Make Budgets Relatable To Residents
- Organize budgets around programs and services people actually experience, not departments.
- Use the budget to show trade-offs so residents can prioritize what to protect or cut.