No Such Thing As A Fish 535: No Such Thing As An Inside-Out Dolphin
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Jun 13, 2024 
Marine biologist Helen Scales and the hosts discuss intelligent octopuses, male emperor penguins balancing eggs, hermit crabs using bottle caps as shells, and the impact of human hair coats. They also touch on architectural designs, environmental issues, and strategies for island ownership.
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Peek-a-Boo with an Octopus
- Helen Scales played peek-a-boo with an octopus while snorkeling in Brittany, France.
- The octopus reacted to her movements, suggesting a level of intelligent interaction.
Octopus Sentience
- Octopuses are now recognized as sentient beings in Britain, alongside vertebrates.
- This raises ethical questions about farming these intelligent creatures, especially given their cannibalistic tendencies.
Penguin Heel Balancing
- Male emperor penguins balance on their heels for two months during winter in Antarctica.
- This prevents their feet from getting too cold while incubating the eggs left by the females.