Episode #199 - Gender as Love with Dr. Fellipe do Vale
Nov 15, 2023
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Dr. Fellipe do Vale, theologian and author, explores the connection between gender and love. He discusses the complexity of gender, proposes an integrated approach between theology and gender theory, and emphasizes the importance of understanding gender through the lens of love. The podcast also delves into Augustine's inconsistent views on gender, examines gendered goods and stereotypes, and discusses the role of love in addressing violence against women.
Gender is shaped by our deepest loves and encompasses a range of emotions and desires.
Gender should not be reduced to an essence or seen as purely a social construct; it involves embodiment, social identity, and the organization of social goods.
Understanding the relationship between love and gendered goods provides insight into the complex dynamics of gender identity.
Deep dives
Gender as Love: Exploring the Theological Account of Human Identity
Dr. Felipe Dovail, author of the book Gender as Love, discusses the theological understanding of gender identity and its relation to human love. He argues that gender is a matter of our gendered loves and that our identities are shaped by the objects of our love. Dr. Dovail emphasizes that love is not necessarily romantic but encompasses a deep care and attachment to certain goods and aspects of our lives. He explores the concept of gendered goods, which are objects and practices that acquire gendered meaning through our love and appropriation of them. The conversation touches on the normative implications of gender as love, highlighting the importance of describing our gendered world and examining the justice and ethics of our gendered identities. Overall, the discussion challenges traditional gender constructs and calls for a deeper understanding of the relationship between love and gender.
The Complexity of Gender: Looking Beyond Essentialism and Social Construction
Dr. Felipe Dovail delves into the complex nature of gender by examining the resistance between essentialist and social constructionist views. He argues that gender should not be reduced to an essence or seen as purely a social construct. Instead, he encourages a both-and perspective that recognizes the inherent complexity of gender. Dr. Dovail suggests that gender is concerned with selves and how they organize social goods related to their sex bodies. He highlights the need for a theological understanding of gender that integrates both embodiment and social identity, moving beyond rigid categorizations. This approach challenges existing gender paradigms and explores new possibilities for understanding gender in a theologically informed manner.
The Role of Love in Gender Identity
Dr. Felipe Dovail emphasizes the centrality of love in shaping gender identity. He argues that gender is intimately tied to our objects of love and the goods that we care about. By loving and appropriating gendered goods, individuals form their gender identities. Dr. Dovail highlights that love is not limited to romantic or positive emotions, but encompasses a range of feelings and desires. He acknowledges that love can be distorted and employed for destructive purposes, emphasizing the need for responsible and virtuous forms of love. Love plays a crucial role in our understanding of gender, shaping our relationships, desires, and sense of self.
Descriptive and Normative Aspects of Gender
Dr. Felipe Dovail explores the descriptive and normative dimensions of gender. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the gendered world we encounter and the gendered goods we interact with. These goods can be either intrinsically gendered, with gender as a defining characteristic, or extrinsically gendered, acquiring gendered meaning through cultural practices. Dr. Dovail argues that the normative task of gender theology requires evaluating the justice and ethics of gendered goods and identities. He challenges the dichotomy between masculine and feminine virtues, instead suggesting a holistic view of gender that considers diverse desires, fears, and aspirations. By engaging with the complexity of gender, we can develop a more nuanced and inclusive understanding of gender identities.
The Relationship Between Love and Gendered Goods
Dr. Felipe Dovail explores how love relates to gender by examining the appropriation of gendered goods. He argues that through love, objects become gendered and take on social meaning. Our affection and care for these goods shape our gender identities. Dr. Dovail emphasizes that love is not limited to romantic connotations, but encompasses the full range of desires and attachments. He challenges the notion that love is inherently positive or romantic, highlighting that love can be negative and leading to harmful actions. Understanding the relationship between love and gendered goods provides insight into the complex dynamics of gender identity and the need to approach gender with a more comprehensive understanding of love.
In this episode we are joined by Dr. Fellipe do Vale, who is Department Chair & Assistant Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Illinois, and he’s the author of Gender as Love: A Theological Account of Human Identity, Embodied Desire, and Our Social Worlds (published by Baker Academic). Over the course of our conversation, Dr. do Vale explains how his theological approach to gender studies aims to get past the binary of essentialism and social constructivism to the issue of love, using Augustine as a guide for thinking about how gender stems from our deepest loves. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities includes: Dr. John Anthony Dunne and Dr. Madison Pierce. Get bonus content on Patreon