RE: Something Interesting | Garrett M. Graff on What the Government Really Knows About UFOs, UAPs, and the Case for Extraterrestrial Life
Nov 18, 2023
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Pulitzer Prize Finalist Garrett M. Graff discusses UFOs and the US government's search for alien life. They explore the history of UFOs, government knowledge, and the likelihood of extraterrestrial life visiting Earth. They also delve into language use, conspiracy theories, government incompetence, disclosure incentives, challenges in identifying alien life, and the intersection of national security, technology, and American politics.
Government's cover-up of UFO knowledge is more about ignorance than hidden information.
Perceived government cover-up likely due to secrecy around military projects and advanced adversary technology.
Deep dives
The Historical Context and Purpose of the Book
In this podcast episode, Garrett M. Graf discusses his new book on the US government's search for alien life. He explains how this topic relates to his previous work on Watergate and American politics. Graf highlights the interconnection between national security, politics, and the public's fascination with UFOs over the last 80 years. Furthermore, he explores how UFO conspiracy theories have eroded American trust in institutions and influenced modern politics. Graf suggests that the government's cover-up of UFO knowledge is more about its ignorance than actual hidden information.
Government's Limited Interest and Resources
Graf addresses the limited interest and resources the government dedicates to UFO research. He points out that UFO study efforts have consistently been understaffed and poorly funded, with small teams of personnel responsible for investigating sightings. He argues that the perceived government cover-up is likely due to the military's secretive projects and its concealment of advanced adversary technology. Graf suggests that the government's lack of knowledge about UFOs is a result of its ignorance rather than a deliberate conspiracy.
The Possibility of Extraterrestrial Life
Graf delves into the possibility of extraterrestrial life and the challenges in detecting it. He explains that while the existence of habitable planets and intelligent life in the universe is likely due to recent scientific discoveries, the vast distances between civilizations may prevent meaningful contact. Graf highlights the limitations of human technology in observing and detecting advanced extraterrestrial civilizations. He discusses how Hollywood's portrayal of first contact scenarios often misleads our understanding of the potential encounters with extraterrestrial life.
The Significance of D-Day and Historical Oral History
In previewing his upcoming book on D-Day, Graf emphasizes the importance of oral history for understanding significant historical events. He draws parallels between his previous oral history book on 9/11 and the upcoming oral history book on D-Day. Graf explains that oral history allows readers to experience historical events from the perspective of those who lived through them, without the bias of hindsight. He highlights the uncertainty and massive scale of D-Day, emphasizing the insurance and overwhelming force that ensured its ultimate success.
Welcome to RE: Something Interesting, The Realignment's new Saturday podcast focused on more casual conversations about American culture and society with people who've written, recorded, or thought about something worth diving into. Today's guest is Garrett M. Graff, a Pulitzer Prize Finalist and author of UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government's Search for Alien Life Here--And Out There. Marshall and Garrett discuss the history of the UFO and UAP phenomenons, what the government does (and doesn't) know about the topic, and the broader likelihood of whether or not extraterrestrial life has visited Earth.
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