Financial Therapy

Financial Therapy

An interview with Lindsay Bryan-Podvin, LMSW, about therapists talking about money with their clients. Curt and Katie talk with Lindsay about what therapists miss if they don’t bring money into the room. We look at the importance of financial therapy both for clients who are struggling financially as well as for clients who might be making more than you (and everyone in between). 

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

Interview with Lindsay Bryan Podvin, LMSW, Financial Therapist

Lindsay Bryan-Podvin is a biracial financial therapist, speaker, and author. As the first financial therapist in Michigan, she combines financial literacy with the emotional and psychological side of money. She's passionate about helping couples and individuals learn how to have a healthy relationship with money by removing shame from it. She helps her clients navigate financial wellness in a way that works for them.

In this episode we talk about:

• Talking about money in the therapy room beyond budgeting
• How frequently therapists avoid talking about money
• Bias that therapists bring into the room around money
• The challenge therapists face when money becomes an issue in session
• How money issues come up for people who have money (not just people who have a lack of money)
• The irony of therapists being told we shouldn’t make money
• Myths surrounding financial therapy
• Therapists already have the skills they need to do this work
• The Four Financial Archetypes that Lindsay adapted from Dr. Brad Klontz’s work
• The work needed to address your Financial Archetype
• The types of conversations that can happen when you open up money as a topic of conversation in therapy
• Looking at cultural and gender roles within the money conversation
• The intervention of “money dates”
• The importance of recognizing limitations in talking about money