#172 Professor at UPenn & Author, Angela Duckworth: Grit

Jan 8, 2024

Angela Duckworth, Professor at UPenn & Author, discusses the importance of passion, perseverance, and hard work. She encourages young people to pursue a life of dedication, happiness, and humor. The podcast covers topics such as being punctual, teaching grit to children, hiring gritty people, and the cost of hard work. Angela also shares insights on satisfaction, loneliness, and success as a journey.

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Introduction

00:00 • 2min

Observations about Approach to Time

01:36 • 12min

The Pursuit of Excellence and Recognition

13:36 • 2min

The Significance of Clothing Choices and Studying Experts

16:03 • 2min

The Pursuit of Excellence and the Loneliness of Success

18:13 • 22min

The Importance of Passion and Grit

40:16 • 20min

The Role of Therapy in Personal Growth

59:54 • 9min

Anticipation, Insights, and Excellence: Exploring the Meaning of Grit

01:09:20 • 2min

Guest: Angela Duckworth, professor at the University of Pennsylvania and author of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance

“There’s got to be a cost” when you pursue your passions, says University of Pennsylvania professor Angela Duckworth; in fact, the word “passion” comes from the Latin word for “suffering.” But that doesn’t mean that gritty people are unhappy. After the time needed for sleep, daily exercise, friends, and family, Dr. Duckworth explains, “what’s left is more than 40 hours.” Informed by her research and her own happiness, she tries to discourage her students from settling for a 9 to 5 life: “There’s so many people that exemplify a life of dedication, and hard work, and of happiness, and humor, and friends, and family, that I think we should tell young people, ‘Look, don't assume that's not possible.’”

In this episode, Angela and Joubin discuss being punctual, Danny Kahneman, AP Calculus, moving the finish line, teaching grit to children, Arthur Ashe, Diana Nyad, passion and sacrifice, hiring gritty people, “change your situation,” Marc Leder and Rodger Krouse, Invictus, ChatGPT, neural autopilot, and Steve Jobs.

In this episode, we cover:

“I have a thing with time” (01:36)
Being the GOAT (06:37)
Mr. Yom (09:27)
Chef Marc Vetri (14:15)
The Devil Wears Prada (16:03)
Talking about grit (18:12)
Satisfaction, loneliness, and happiness (20:24)
Success as a journey (28:23)
The cost of hard work (32:52)
Angela’s 70-hour work week (36:31)
Charisma and loving what you do (40:55)
Why high achievers have supportive partners (47:07)
The next book (55:25)
Pick the right market (57:45)
Therapy questions (59:53)
The Incredible Hulk vs. James Bond (01:02:45)
Automating decisions (01:05:43)
What “grit” means to Angela (01:09:39)

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Connect with Angela
- Twitter
- LinkedIn
Additional reading:
- Redefining Success: Adopt the Journey Mindset to Move Forward
- Buy Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance
Connect with Joubin
- Twitter
- LinkedIn
- Email: grit@kleinerperkins.com
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This episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm