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Episode 17: The Gaza war began 25 years ago, a conversation with Matti Friedman

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Jun 9, 2025
Matti Friedman, a veteran of the Lebanon War and bestselling author of 'Pumpkinflowers', shares poignant insights on the 25th anniversary of Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon. He discusses how the conflict's legacy continues to shape the situation in Gaza today. Friedman explores Hezbollah’s innovative use of media as a weapon, the complexities of the Lebanon War, and the contrasting definitions of success between groups like Israel and Hamas. His reflections highlight the profound societal implications and the urgent need for nuanced political leadership in addressing ongoing conflicts.
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ANECDOTE

Matti's Lebanon Withdrawal Story

  • Matti Friedman was serving at Outpost Pumpkin during the Israeli withdrawal from South Lebanon in 2000.
  • He was discharged shortly before and heard about the withdrawal by surprise early that morning.
INSIGHT

Lebanon War as Warfare Lab

  • The Lebanese conflict was the birthplace of 21st-century guerrilla warfare involving IEDs and media manipulation.
  • Hezbollah innovated by using video propaganda to influence public perception and morale against the Israeli army.
INSIGHT

War Without Clear Israeli Goals

  • Israelis struggled with unclear objectives during the Lebanon war, causing social protests and a divided national stance.
  • Hezbollah's strategy thrived because Israelis questioned the purpose of their prolonged presence in Lebanon.
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