Freakonomics Radio

645. Is the Air Traffic Control System Broken?

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Sep 5, 2025
Ed Bastian, CEO of Delta Airlines, shares insights on the airline industry's view of air traffic control, emphasizing safety and modernization needs. Polly Trottenberg, former deputy secretary of transportation, discusses FAA operations challenges and the historical context of air traffic control. Economist John Strong highlights infrastructure issues and staffing shortages, urging investment in new technology. Dorothy Robyn advocates for corporatization of the FAA, addressing policy implications and the need for a more efficient air traffic system.
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INSIGHT

Safety Amid Strain

  • The U.S. air traffic control system is remarkably safe despite widespread invisibility and complexity.
  • Recent incidents exposed strain from outdated tech and cascading errors that could worsen without fixes.
ANECDOTE

Airlines And FAA: An 'Open Kimono'

  • Ed Bastian describes how airlines and the FAA operate as both partners and regulator with shared transparency.
  • He says pilots, controllers, airlines and the FAA exchange everything to maintain safety and operational trust.
INSIGHT

Legacy Tech Limits Capacity

  • Much of ATC still relies on mid-20th-century radar and infrastructure rather than modern satellite navigation.
  • That legacy tech forces slower schedules, less throughput, and heavy buffering across the industry.
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