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All Quiet on the Second Front

30. Unpacking the Cycles: Investment and Innovation in Dual-Use Technologies with Ryan Lewis

Oct 31, 2023
Ryan Lewis, venture capital expert, explores the cyclical nature of tech trends in national security, challenges in the defense industrial base, complexities of involving seasoned and newbie investors in aerospace ventures, and the impacts of geopolitics and market conditions on innovation and investment in defense and tech.
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  • Consolidation in the defense industry has led to a less competitive and diverse defense industrial base, raising concerns about the dominance of a few major players in the market.
  • Dual-use companies face challenges due to differing growth trajectories and expectations between investors and founders, highlighting the need for clear communication and alignment for balanced market understanding.

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Consolidation of the defense industry

The podcast discusses the trend of consolidation within the defense industry over the past 20 years. It highlights the impact of this consolidation on the diversity and competitiveness of the defense industrial base (DIB). The podcast mentions the consolidation of 51 companies into five major players and the potential dangers of the meta-contractors dominating the market. It also raises the question of what type of industrial base the government is trying to build and whether the current consolidation trend aligns with that vision.

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