
All Quiet on the Second Front
If Between Two Ferns and C-SPAN had a child, it would be All Quiet on the Second Front. Blending the very best (and the worst) of government gravitas with technical expertise, Second Front’s Chief Executive Officer, Tyler Sweatt, cuts through the noise and the bureaucratic BS surrounding all things defense tech, national security, and government markets. Be warned: this is not your typical military or government podcast. As host, Tyler has an uncanny ability to get people to talk honestly, making candid conversations that are equally informative and entertaining. All Quiet on the Second Front is the much-needed integrator connecting listeners to experts across fields in an approachable format that offers a fun experience with real conversations, driving real change in the defense tech industry and U.S. national security. Learn more about Second Front at SecondFront.com
Latest episodes

Jun 3, 2025 • 42min
Connected for Impact: Trust, Build, Deliver (Live at Offset '25)
In this special episode of All Quiet on the Second Front, we’re bringing you a live recording from Offset 2025. Moderated by Danielle Metz, 2F Chief Policy Officer, this panel tackles a question that’s easy to say but hard to operationalize: how do we actually build trust between government and industry to deliver secure, mission-ready technology? Danielle is joined by Rob Nolen, Chief Technologist for DoD at AWS, Dan Garcia, Chief Information Security Officer at EnterpriseDB, and Eric Sanders, Chief Information Security Officer at DHS (I&A) and, together, they unpack the cultural and structural baggage that slows innovation—and explore what it’ll take to shift hearts, minds, and bureaucracies toward impact.What’s Happening on the Second Front: Building security into systems from the start (not bolting it on later)Measuring impact through velocity, not vanity metricsRisk tolerance vs. risk avoidance in government techThe role of policy and regulation in accelerating trustWhy a shared language between builders, buyers, and approvers is mission-critical

May 20, 2025 • 25min
93. Offset 2025 Keynote with Senator Markwaye Mullin
In this special keynote episode recorded live at Offset Symposium, Senator Markwayne Mullin joins 2F CEO Tyler Sweatt to talk national security, bureaucratic bottlenecks, and the urgent need for change across government and defense.Senator Mullin lays out a clear-eyed view of the current state: the technology is moving faster than the government—and without bold action, we risk falling even further behind. From budgeting flexibility to breaking down silos across the DoD, this conversation covers where the gaps are, how private sector partnerships can help, and what it’ll take to drive real reform.What’s Happening on the Second Front:Why relationships—not just policy—drive changeHow the DoD can embrace a “get to yes” cultureMaking room in the budget for faster, more flexible solutionsWhy the next 18 months are critical for national security transformationIf we’re serious about change, we can’t wait for permission. Tune in for a candid, high-impact conversation from the Offset main stage.

May 6, 2025 • 30min
92. Bret Boyd, Cofounder & CEO of Sustainment
This week on All Quiet on the Second Front, Tyler sits down with Bret Boyd, co-founder and CEO of Sustainment, to talk shop on reshoring U.S. manufacturing, rethinking the defense industrial base, and why clipboards and PDFs are still running the depots. Bret’s got the receipts—combat deployments with the 75th Ranger Regiment, 15+ years in tech, and now building one of the largest networks of non-traditional U.S. manufacturers. What’s happening on the Second Front: How small manufacturers hold the key to reindustrializationThe real bottlenecks behind readiness: not weapons, but partsWhy defense acquisition needs fewer PDFs and more CRMsThe case for a U.S. “manufacturing ready reserve”Connect with Bret Linkedin: Bret BoydConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

Apr 22, 2025 • 27min
91. Cameron McCord, CEO & Co-Founder, Nominal
In this episode of All Quiet on the Second Front, Tyler sits down with Cameron McCord, CEO and co-founder of Nominal, to talk about why testing & evaluation is finally getting its moment in the spotlight—and why that matters more than you think. From time at Anduril and Lux Capital to launching Nominal, Cam shares a candid look at the bottlenecks slowing down national security and how the right software (and the right team) can tip the balance.What's happening on the Second FrontWhy test data is the next frontier for advantage in defenseHow government incentives and contracting structures need to evolveWhat it really takes to build a mission-driven team in this spaceThe difference between missionaries and mercenariesConnect with CameronLinkedIn: Cameron McCordConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

Apr 8, 2025 • 33min
90. Samuel Semwangu, CEO of Bazze
Samuel Semwangu, CEO of Bazze and former special ops veteran, shares his fascinating journey from military to Silicon Valley. He discusses the pivotal role of commercial data in modern intelligence operations and how Bazze is transforming data access with a federated API that integrates insights from numerous sources. Sammy sheds light on the importance of service partners in achieving software success and navigating regulatory challenges, emphasizing the need for collaboration in the evolving defense tech landscape.

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Mar 24, 2025 • 43min
89. Software Defined Warfare with Lt. Gen. Jack Shanahan and Stephen Rodriguez
Join Lt. Gen. Jack Shanahan, a retired Air Force leader with a rich background in AI and defense innovation, and Stephen Rodriguez, a strategist from the Atlantic Council focusing on tech in warfare. They delve into how software is reshaping military operations and the critical nature of the Department of Defense's initiatives. Expect fascinating anecdotes from their careers and insights into how the U.S. military must adapt to embrace software-defined warfare, ensuring readiness for future challenges.

Mar 18, 2025 • 30min
88. Greg Touhill, Director of the SEI’s CERT Division at Carnegie Mellon University
Episode 88. On this episode of All Quiet, host Tyler Sweat chats with cybersecurity expert Greg Touhill, director of the CERT Division at Carnegie Mellon's Software Engineering Institute. With a rich background as the U.S. government's first Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) and a seasoned executive in the U.S. Air Force and Department of Homeland Security, Greg discusses the trajectory of cybersecurity from its foundational days to its current critical role in national security and private sector strategy. Explore how AI and cybersecurity intersect and the essential steps today's leaders must take to safeguard our digital future.What’s Happening on the Second Front:Greg's journey from the U.S. Air Force to leading national cybersecurity initiatives.The impact of AI on cybersecurity—what does the future hold?Cybersecurity in the corporate world: How is it shaping business strategies at the highest levels?Emerging challenges: What are the next big threats, and how are we preparing to tackle them?Connect with GregLinkedIn: Gregory TouhillConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler SweattSEI resources discussed:SEI website: https://www.sei.cmu.edu/AI/AI Security: Artificial Intelligence Security Incident Response Team (AISIRT)Risk and Resilience: Enterprise Risk and Resilience ManagementSEI GitHub: Software Engineering Institute · GitHub

Mar 4, 2025 • 32min
87. Troy Demmer, Co-Founder & Chief Product Officer at Gecko Robotics
In this episode of All Quiet on the Second Front, host Tyler Sweatt chats with Troy Demmer of Gecko Robotics about transforming infrastructure with robotics, AI, and smarter data. They explore Gecko’s origins, its impact on defense and energy, and how better maintenance can drive national security and economic growth. From crawling robots to AI-powered insights, Troy shares how Gecko is tackling critical infrastructure challenges—and why the biggest threat isn’t new technology, but inertia.What's Happening on the Second FrontRobots + AI = Smarter Infrastructure – How Gecko is transforming maintenance and inspection.Data Overload? – Why most organizations collect too much but use too little.Tech vs. Tradition – The real battle is overcoming industry inertia, not innovation.AI’s Hidden Flaw – Great power, terrible results—unless the data is right.The Future is Now – Edge computing, real-time insights, and maximizing what we already have.Connect with TroyLinkedIn: Troy DemmerConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

Feb 18, 2025 • 31min
86. Hon. Martha McSally, Former U.S. Senator & 2F Independent Board Director
On this episode of All Quiet on the Second Front, host Tyler Sweatt sits down with Hon. Martha McSally—former A-10 fighter pilot, U.S. Senator, and now 2F Independent Board Director—to talk about resilience, reinvention, and leading with purpose.Martha shares her journey from being one of the first women to fly a fighter jet in combat to navigating the world of politics and now advising leaders and companies. She discusses how to thrive through major career transitions, why identity isn’t tied to job titles, and how leaders can build trust, stay adaptable, and create high-performing teams.What’s Happening on the Second FrontMartha’s path from fighter pilot to senator to board director.Why trust, clear communication, and self-awareness are critical for leadership.How to navigate career transitions and detach from external identity.Practical leadership tools, from curiosity to balancing work intensity.Why now is the best time to lean in, innovate, and lead.Connect with MarthaLinkedIn: Martha McSallyConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt

Feb 4, 2025 • 28min
85. Scott Sanders, Chief Growth Officier of Forterra
On this episode of All Quiet on the Second Front, host Tyler Sweatt sits down with Scott Sanders, Chief Growth Officer of Forterra, to talk about building elite teams, mission-driven leadership, and the realities of hiring in defense tech. Scott shares his journey from Marine Raider to early Anduril employee to leading a company that’s shaping the future of autonomous ground systems.What’s Happening on the Second FrontWhy so many veterans return to defense tech (even after swearing they wouldn’t)The “deployment test” for hiring and how to spot high-impact operatorsBalancing speed and quality in recruiting without breaking the cultureThe importance of taking time away from work to stay sharpWhy military leaders struggle to let go—and how to fix itConnect with ScottLinkedIn: Scott SandersConnect with TylerLinkedIn: Tyler Sweatt