Shameless Popery

#243 Learn To Spot This Common Logical Fallacy (Counterfeit Argument)

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Jan 22, 2026
Explore the intriguing concept of the 'Counterfeit Argument' and how it misleads religious debates. Joe breaks down various claims against Catholicism, like the authority of councils and the nature of papal legitimacy. He tackles myths surrounding the Western Schism and the biblical canon, shedding light on historic misconceptions. Plus, discover how the notion of multiple gods fails to dispel the idea of one true God. Fascinating insights into unity and the church's purpose round out this compelling discussion.
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Counterfeit Argument Defined

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Western Schism Example

  • Joe recounts the Western Schism where two or three men claimed to be pope simultaneously.
  • He uses the episode to show how counterfeit claimants create the counterfeit argument against papal authority.
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Counterfeits Don't Invalidate Truth

  • Counterfeits don't logically disprove genuine items simply by existing.
  • The presence of false claimants makes truth harder to accept but doesn't invalidate it.
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