Death Panel Abolish ICE Means Abolish the Police w/ Mariame Kaba & Andrea Ritchie (Re-Air)
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Oct 16, 2026 
Mariame Kaba, organizer and abolitionist educator, joins Andrea Ritchie, movement lawyer and author focused on policing’s impact on Black women and trans communities. They connect ICE surges to everyday policing, challenge “good immigrant” narratives, and examine reforms that expand carceral power. The conversation turns to defunding, mutual aid, community defense, transformative justice, and building abolition through everyday collective action.
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Detention Is Not About Finding Bad People
- ICE’s spectacularly funded violence exposes that detention does not target only “bad” people.
- Most detainees have no criminal-legal-system interaction, making collective removal the actual objective.
Refuse The Worst Of The Worst Frame
- Reject “good immigrant” and “worst of the worst” arguments that preserve criminalization as legitimate.
- Defend everyone’s dignity instead of surrendering supposedly disposable groups to protect others.
Criminalization Is Expandable At Will
- Criminalization remains flexible because authorities can expand or withdraw labels whenever people threaten power.
- Accepting those labels lets the state control behavior and eventually criminalize anyone.
