Ariadne, Dionysus, and the Theseus of it All (With Jennifer Saint)
Jan 6, 2022
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Jennifer Saint, bestselling author of Ariadne, talks about myth, storytelling, women in Minoan Crete, and recreating ancient religious rites based on mythology. They discuss the lives of Ariadne and Phaedra, women's experiences in ancient Greece, the importance of therapy during the holidays, printing mistakes in the King James Bible, and the dual nature of Dionysus.
The novel Ariadne reimagines the stories of Ariadne and Phaedra, shedding light on their complex identities and experiences.
The book explores the limited options available to women in ancient Greece and highlights the oppressive attitudes prevalent in that era.
The author drew inspiration from research, classical studies, and contemporary sources to recreate the world of Minoan Crete and depict the challenges faced by women in a patriarchal society.
Deep dives
Ariadne, Jennifer Steed, Ariadne, and Phaedra explored
The novel Ariadne, written by Jennifer Steed, reimagines the stories of Ariadne and Phaedra, focusing on their characters, experiences, and perceptions. The book delves into the inner thoughts and motivations of Ariadne, shedding light on her anger, pride, and the complexity of her identity. It also examines Phaedra's intelligence, persuasive skills, and rebellious nature, while exploring her struggles with love and relationships. The podcast episode discusses the research and assumptions made by the author while writing the book, as well as the portrayal of women's lives in ancient Greece. It examines the limited options available to women in a patriarchal society and highlights the oppressive attitudes and victim-blaming prevalent in that era. The episode also delves into the portrayal of Dionysus, the god of wine and revelry, highlighting both his enjoyable and terrifying sides, and explores the inspiration behind the novel, A Lecture, which focuses on the women whose lives were shattered by Agamemnon, namely Cleytemnestra, Cassandra, and Elektra.
Researching Minoan Crete and crafting the novel
The author discusses the research involved in recreating the world of Minoan Crete for the book, including exploring classical studies and delving into Homer's works to gain a sense of the domestic settings and palaces. The British Museum and virtual tours of archaeological sites like Knossos were instrumental in providing visual inspiration and accurate details for the novel's descriptions. The author also draws on contemporary sources, such as Donna Tartt's "The Secret History," to capture the atmosphere of rituals and weave in various myths into the narrative. The novel seeks to depict the lives of women in ancient Greece and explores the challenges they faced within a patriarchal society where they had limited agency and few options to control their own destinies.
Discovering surprising aspects of characters and their tales
The podcast episode delves into the surprising aspects of the characters in the novel, shedding light on their complexities and as well as their surprising actions. For example, it explores the shocking myth of Minos and reveals the calculated cruelties he inflicts upon others, shedding a different light on his character. Additionally, it discusses the portrayal of Dionysus, highlighting his charismatic and intriguing nature, but also delving into the darker side of his vengeful punishments and his role within the patriarchal structure of the Olympian gods. The episode also touches on the various perspectives of the female characters, such as Cassandra's knowledge of the impending tragedy of Troy and Electra's diverging path in response to Agamemnon's actions.
Crafting a story that explores motherhood and sisterhood
The author explains her intention to explore themes of motherhood and sisterhood in the novel. She discusses the challenges and complexities of motherhood, portraying it as a difficult and dangerous experience in the ancient world, where women had little control over their fertility and faced high rates of infant and child mortality. The podcast also delves into the different experiences and attitudes towards motherhood depicted in the novel, with characters like Ariadne finding comfort and purpose in raising children, while others like Phaedra struggle with their role as mothers and the challenges of being married to Theseus. The episode highlights the portrayal of sisterhood and motherhood as integral relationships that go beyond the influence of the male figures in the characters' lives, and also touches on the societal and cultural expectations that shape women's experiences in ancient Greece.
Teaser for the upcoming novel, Alecto
The podcast episode offers a teaser for the author's upcoming novel, Alecto, which focuses on the female characters whose lives are shattered by Agamemnon. The novel features three narrators: Clytemnestra, Cassandra, and Electra, enabling readers to explore their unique perspectives and experiences. It spans a wide span of time and delves into different attitudes towards Agamemnon, showcasing the complex emotions and motivations of each character. The episode highlights the author's inspiration for the novel, which was sparked by the sacrifice of Iphigenia and the divergent paths taken by the women affected by Agamemnon's actions. It also explores the challenges of writing about characters from different cultures and the exciting possibilities offered by delving into their stories and perspectives.
In this episode, we talk to Jennifer Saint, bestselling author of Ariadne, to discuss myth, storytelling, the lives of women in Minoan Crete--and the process of recreating mysterious, ancient religious rites based on the clues left in mythology.
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