Ukrainecast Q&A: Russian drones in Poland and what it means for Nato
Sep 11, 2025
Frank Gardner, BBC's security correspondent, delves into the recent incursion of Russian drones into Polish airspace, highlighting its implications for NATO's defenses. He discusses the complexities of potential military escalation in Ukraine, emphasizing the delicate balance Western leaders must maintain to avoid provoking Russia. Gardner also explores the challenges of using frozen Russian assets to support Ukraine and shares insights on the unique dynamics of wartime travel for Western leaders visiting Ukraine.
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Drones Entered Polish Airspace As Possible Test
- At least 19 Russian drones entered Polish airspace, and four were shot down during a major incursion.
- Moscow claimed no intent to strike Poland, leaving open the possibility they tested NATO responses, per Vitaly Shevchenko.
NATO Reacted But Air Defences Fell Short
- NATO scrambled Polish F-16s, Dutch F-35s and an Italian reconnaissance plane but shot down only about a quarter of the drones.
- Frank Gardner says NATO's eastern border lacks sufficient air defence and needs drastic strengthening.
Political Thresholds Kept NATO From Treating It As War
- Poland invoked Article 4 for consultations; NATO did not view the incursion as Article 5-level attack.
- The decision rested on absence of casualties and explosions, framing the event as probing rather than an armed attack.