Jacqueline Novak, a stand-up comic known for her frank and fun style of comedy, joins Marc Maron to discuss the intentions and reactions in comedy, creating a special, and the role of depression in a comic's creative output.
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Quick takeaways
Dirty comedy is no longer seen as inferior or shock value, but rather as smart and thoughtful filth.
There is a rise of women comedians who confidently embrace explicit humor and provide a refreshing perspective in the comedy world.
The perception of dirty comedy should focus on the quality of jokes and storytelling, rather than just the explicit aspects of the performance.
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Jacqueline Novak's Memoir and Comedy Career
Jacqueline Novak, a comedian and author, talks about her memoir called 'How to Weep in Public' and her career as a comedian. She discusses her experiences in the comedy world, her off-Broadway show, and the importance of being authentic as a performer.
The Evolution of Dirty Comedy
The podcast episode explores the shift in societal attitudes towards dirty comedy. Mark Maron discusses how dirty comedy used to be seen as inferior or shock value, but now there is a growing appreciation for smart and thoughtful filth in the industry. He notes the rise of women comedians who are doing raw and sexually explicit comedy and how it provides a refreshing and rarely heard perspective in the comedy world.
Mark Maron's Personal and Professional Struggles
Mark Maron opens up about his personal and professional struggles, including his recent dispute with a rental car company in Albuquerque. He discusses the importance of using his podcast as an outlet for his grievances, and how he finds resolution and peace by expressing his thoughts and concerns. Additionally, Mark shares his decision to potentially move to New Mexico and his thoughts and feelings about this new chapter in his life.
The Rise of Women in Filthy Comedy
There has been an increase in women taking the lead in dirty or filthy comedy acts, pushing boundaries and embracing explicit humor. This change is seen in young female comedians who are unafraid to be dirty and explore explicit topics. In contrast, some men have become more nervous about being dirty on stage, possibly due to fears of being judged. Women doing dirty comedy is still provocative and can make people uncomfortable. The shift in comedy reflects a new era where women are taking more control and pushing boundaries.
The Importance of Craft and Content over Shock Value
The podcast episode discusses the perception of dirty comedy and how it is often misunderstood. The conversation highlights that filth in comedy is not easy and requires skill and craft to be done well. It is not just about shock value or being crass for the sake of it. Craft and content should not be overlooked just because a comedian is talking about explicit topics. The focus should be on the quality of the jokes and the overall storytelling rather than just the dirty aspects of the performance.
Jacqueline Novak’s new Netflix standup special is a rite of passage story about a girl finding her way into womanhood. Kind of. For Marc, it was refreshing to watch something so frank, filthy and fun. For Jacqueline, it was an honest expression of what she finds funny, not a statement or provocation. Marc and Jacqueline talk about intentions and reactions in comedy, their approaches to making a special, and how depression factors into the creative output of a comic.