Fintech pioneer Shamir Karkal, founder and CEO of Simple, talks about building the neobank model and pioneering banking as a service. He shares challenges in scaling, funding, and improving user engagement. Karkal discusses the birth of Sila, their aim to simplify financial application development, and the slow transformation of the financial services industry. The chapter also explores the future of fintech, the availability of capital, and the importance of timing for entrepreneurs.
Simple pioneered the Neo-Bank model, partnering with traditional banks for regulatory purposes.
The future of Neo-Banks and banking-as-a-service platforms holds potential for transformation, particularly in international remittances and dental insurance claims administration.
Despite challenges, opportunities exist in the FinTech sector, and entrepreneurs should focus on building a strong team, addressing fundamental problems, and seizing the favorable timing.
Deep dives
The origins of Simple and the Neo-Bank model
Shamir Karkal, the founder and CEO of Simple, explains how Simple pioneered the Neo-Bank model in 2009. Simple offered banking services but partnered with traditional banks for regulatory purposes. The Neo-Bank model, popularized by Simple, has transformed the FinTech industry over the past decade.
Challenges in building Simple and the banking-as-a-service platform
Shamir shares the challenges faced while building Simple, including legal and regulatory hurdles. They explored the possibility of getting their own bank charter but ultimately decided to partner with existing banks. This led to the creation of the BBVA Open Platform, an early example of a banking-as-a-service platform. Shamir later left BBVA and founded Silla, a banking-as-a-service platform focused on ACH payments.
The future of Neo-Banks and banking-as-a-service
Shamir provides insights into the future of Neo-Banks and banking-as-a-service platforms. He notes that the industry is still in the early stages of transformation, with Neo-Banks and fintechs representing less than 2% of global financial services revenue. While growth and opportunities exist, the highly regulated nature of the industry and the size of the sector pose challenges for widespread disruption. However, Shamir believes that sectors like international remittances and dental insurance claims administration are ripe for transformation, as technology continues to reshape the financial landscape.
Advice for entrepreneurs in FinTech
Shamir offers advice for entrepreneurs looking to start a venture in financial services. He emphasizes that despite the challenges, there are still opportunities to build innovative solutions. While capital availability may vary, there is still investor interest in the sector. Shamir highlights the importance of building a strong team, having a clear vision, and addressing fundamental problems for consumers. He also notes that timing is crucial, and the current environment presents a favorable time to enter the FinTech space.
The legacy of Neo-Banks and the future of financial services
Shamir reflects on the legacy of Neo-Banks, noting that they have played a significant role in building the infrastructure for the FinTech industry. While Neo-Banks have faced challenges, their influence extends beyond consumer banking to broader financial infrastructure. Shamir believes that the future transformation of the industry will occur gradually, with incremental changes in specific sectors. He emphasizes the vast potential for innovation in financial services and the ongoing need to address existing problems and inefficiencies.
Today, I’m talking to fintech pioneer, Shamir Karkal, the Founder and CEO of Simple.
Founded in 2009, Simple was one of the very first neobanks, meaning they offered banking services, but were not themselves a bank. Simple built the user experience and tech, but partnered with a bank to provide the charter.
In 2009, it was not at all obvious this was even possible. Simple helped prove it was and grew a cult-like customer base in the 100s of thousands.
It’s hard to overstate how important the neobank model has become for fintech in the decade plus. Today, there are 100+ Neobanks and 20+ banking as a service platforms. But the bank-as-a-service model, is not just a story of neobanks.
It’s been crucial to the growth of fintech, especially embedded fintech, more broadly.
So, today, we’re going to talk w/ Shamir about what it took build Simple and pioneer a category.
But, like any good pioneer, Shamir’s not finished. Today, he’s founded Sila, a banking-as-a-service platform, informed from his time building Simple. We’ll talk cover that as well as what Shamir see’s in the future of financial infrastructure.
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