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254 - The Yale US-China Forum: Slavoj Žižek, Richard Wolff, Yannis Varoufakis, Robin Visser, Yascha Mounk, Pei Wang, Daniel Mattingly

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Jul 6, 2025
Richard Wolff, a Marxist economist, critiques modern capitalism and its inherent challenges, while Yannis Varoufakis delves into Europe's strategic role amid US-China tensions. Yascha Mounk discusses the ideological battles shaping global perceptions of democracy versus authoritarianism. Daniel Mattingly analyzes the rise of China and its impact on international politics. With insights from Robin Visser and Pei Wang on cultural dynamics, the conversation weaves a rich tapestry of economic, political, and philosophical themes in understanding the evolving US-China relationship.
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Neo-Feudal Future and Europe-China Pact

  • The future of global order risks plunging into a neo-feudal state dominated by imperial superpowers like the US, Russia, and China.
  • Europe must forge a strategic pact with China to avoid geopolitical marginalization and preserve humanity's survival.
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Trade Wars as Class Wars

  • Trade wars are fundamentally class wars involving competing capitalist interests and wage suppressions.
  • The US trade deficit acts as a vacuum sucking in global surpluses, recycling foreign capital primarily through Wall Street.
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Why the US-China Rivalry is More than Just Politics or Economics

Yanis Varoufakis explains that the US-China conflict is not merely a trade or economic dispute but fundamentally a battle over class and technological power. He highlights that trade wars are actually class wars, with the US trade deficit functioning as a mechanism that benefits capitalists through Wall Street and real estate rents, while disadvantaging the American working and middle classes.

He further discusses the rise of "cloud capital" — the tech-driven economic sector dominated by firms that influence behavior and data rather than traditional production — and how this fuels the new US-China Cold War. Varoufakis points out the US faces internal conflicts between traditional financial powerhouses and emerging tech giants, whereas China's political and economic system enables a more integrated approach to technological and financial development.

The US-China competition is thus deepened by technological and class dynamics rather than territorial disputes, fueling complex geopolitical tensions. Varoufakis ultimately sees the competition as a struggle rooted in capitalism's evolution and driven by distinct political-economic orders.

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