I've known Ali Mau for 13 years. We first met when I started working as a producer on Q+A at TVNZ, and she was the host of Fair Go.
She took me under her wing, taught me how to do piece-to-cameras, and has been a mentor and dear friend ever since.
Like many others, I did not know about the abuse she had suffered as a child until I read her book.
It is confronting and brave, and by the end, it hit me in both the gut and the heart.
But what it - and this interview with Ali - shows is a strength beyond words.
We also explore her career, her passions, and an incredible story about her competing at Horse of the Year.
*Warning: this episode discusses sexual abuse
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