
N N Taleb's Probability Questions (UNOFFICIAL) Nassim Taleb and Scott Patterson discuss "Chaos Kings", Part 2 (2024)
Nov 11, 2025
Scott Patterson, a financial journalist and author of "Chaos Kings", engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Nassim Taleb. They delve into the ‘Turkey Problem’ and the stark contrasts between predictive models and real-world unpredictability. Topics include Mandelbrot's influence on understanding power laws and fat tails, the importance of building robustness over seeking precise predictions, and the dangers of ignoring small risks that can lead to catastrophic failures. Their conversation highlights critical insights into tail risks and systemic fragility in various contexts.
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The Turkey Problem Means Different Perspectives
- The turkey problem shows events can be a black swan for one agent and obvious to another.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb warns you must avoid being the turkey by revising beliefs before T-minus-two.
Power Laws Make Large Deviations Predictable Patterns
- Benoit Mandelbrot taught Taleb that power laws turn black swans into grey swans within statistical properties.
- Taleb realized power-law self-similarity applies to finance and fattened tails are universal.
Mandelbrot Called Taleb And They Became Friends
- Mandelbrot called Taleb out of the blue, they dined and became close collaborators.
- Taleb describes Mandelbrot as having immense mental energy even at advanced age.












