Transforming Identity: The Power of IFS Therapy and Ancient Wisdom | Paul Vander Klay

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Jul 26, 2024

In this engaging discussion, Paul Vander Klay, a minister known for his online dialogues on faith, delves into the transformative impact of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and ancient spiritual wisdom. He explores the evolution of identity, emphasizing the interconnectedness of self and community. Vander Klay and John Vervaeke highlight the dynamic nature of personal growth through relationality and the role of modern spirituality. Their conversation touches on trust, faith, and the influence of historical figures on contemporary identities, sparking reflection on how narratives shape our understanding.

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ANECDOTE

Vervaeke's Hermes Encounter

While practicing IFS, John Vervaeke had a powerful archetypal experience.
An entity presented itself as Hermes, leading him to explore dialogical relationships and Neoplatonism.

INSIGHT

Transjective Self

The self is transjective, existing both within and outside of us, formed through interactions.
Metacognition, developed through imitating others' perspectives, exemplifies this transjectivity.

INSIGHT

Ontology of Parts

'Transjective' entities, like parts in IFS, aren't real like physical objects or subjective experiences.
They necessitate a shift from substance ontology to a dynamical systems ontology, emphasizing relationality.

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