

Listening to Whales
Mar 29, 2025
Shane Gero, a marine biologist dedicated to understanding sperm whale communication through Project CETI, joins Carl Zimmer, a New York Times science reporter known for his insights into whale science, and Mere Takoko, an Indigenous ocean and climate conservationist advocating for whale personhood. They discuss groundbreaking AI technologies that decode whale vocalizations, the deep social bonds within sperm whale families, and Indigenous perspectives on giving these majestic creatures rights. This engaging conversation highlights the urgent need for conservation and understanding our connection to marine life.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Whale Voices: Decoding the Depths of Communication
02:00 • 17min
Exploring the Intimate Dance with Sperm Whales
18:54 • 2min
The Remarkable Discovery of Whale Songs
20:39 • 2min
Whales and the Whisper of Conservation
22:20 • 17min
Whales as Ancestors: A Call for Personhood
39:21 • 8min
Indigenous Wisdom in Conservation
47:36 • 6min