226. Joseph Goldstein (dharma teacher) – doubt comes masquerading as wisdom
Jan 18, 2020
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Joseph Goldstein discusses freedom of the mind and spirit, exploring the concept of freedom through various experiences and philosophical ideas. The podcast delves into ethics in Buddhism, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness and ethical behavior. It also touches on navigating fierce action with balance, exploring insights through traditional plants and meditation practices, and encouraging trust in the present moment for self-awareness and enlightenment.
Ethical behavior in spiritual practice promotes fearlessness and trust in relationships.
Consistent meditation practice leads to deeper understanding and wisdom on the spiritual path.
Approach doubt in meditation with discernment to uncover deeper insights over time.
Deep dives
The Importance of Ethics in Buddhist Practice
Ethics, particularly non-harming behavior, is foundational and essential in any spiritual practice, including Buddhism. The commitment to ethical behavior brings multiple benefits, such as non-remorse and a stabilizing aspect to the entire spiritual path. While some may find adherence to ethical principles established centuries ago as frightening or rigid, the essence of ethics is cultivating non-harming behavior. It does not require an absolutist approach, and wise remorse and regret should be distinguished from guilt. Ethical behavior provides the gift of fearlessness to others and promotes a sense of safety and trust in interpersonal relationships.
The Methodology and Insight in Meditation Practice
Developing a stable and consistent meditation practice is essential to progress on the spiritual path. This entails learning the techniques and tools of meditation, which serve as vehicles for exploring deeper understanding. Mindfulness is not the ultimate goal in practice, but a means to develop wisdom and insight. Mindfulness allows for the observation of thoughts, emotions, and experiences without judgment, while discernment helps in cultivating skillful behaviors and letting go of unskillful patterns. The practice of meditation requires time and patience to integrate experiences and develop inner resources for sustained growth.
Navigating Doubt and Drawing Conclusions
Doubt is a common hindrance in meditation and spiritual practice. While doubt can sometimes be mistaken for wisdom, it often stems from the ego and can be a trick of the mind. It is important to approach doubt with discernment and investigate its validity rather than immediately dismiss or believe in its conclusions. Drawing rapid conclusions about spiritual experiences can lead to misinterpretation. Instead, allowing experiences to settle and having a measured approach while practicing mindfulness and discernment can reveal deeper understanding over time.
Trusting and Integrating Experiences
Trusting in the present moment, observing it without judgment, and integrating different experiences is crucial for growth on the spiritual path. Mindfulness allows for an open awareness of the present, discerning whether thoughts, emotions, or impulses are skillful or unskillful. Trusting the self in the moment does not mean blindly following every impulse, but blending awareness with discernment. Recognizing that experiences can be transformative glimpses, trust should be placed in the process of integration rather than jumping to immediate conclusions.
The Evolving Journey and Direction
The spiritual journey involves individuals at different stages and circumstances. However, the key factor is the direction towards greater understanding, compassion, wisdom, or light, regardless of the starting point. While suffering may vary, the focus should be on progressing towards transformation and growth. The path is not fixed or limited by circumstances and is open to everyone's movement. Understanding the process, seeking appropriate guidance, and having a sense of humor about one's mind are integral aspects of the evolving journey.
Freedom. Everyone wants it, but knowing where to look for it is another matter. And to make matters worse, the world is full of things that feel like freedom but might just get us more tangled up in everything we’re trying to escape. How much freedom can money buy? How much money? How free are you on a tropical vacation? Would uploading your consciousness into the cloud and downloading it into a robot avatar on Alpha Centauri make you more free? How about falling in love again? How about three margaritas with friends? Or six? How about falling in love again? A better government? Less government? No government at all?
I’m here today with Joseph Goldstein, a beloved teacher of Buddhist ideas and practice in the West and a personal inspiration to me, to talk about freedom of the mind and spirit—and the kinds of effort and insight that can lead there. Joseph is the co-founder of Insight Meditation Society in Barre, Massachusetts and the author, most recently, of Mindfulness: a Practical Guide to Awakening.